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lily



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:47 pm    Post subject: sheep's milk soap Reply with quote

Hello girls ! Today, I went to the market and found some Sheep's milk (I hope that "sheep" is the good word for the female animal ?) anyway: you know what I mean.

A pretty long time ago, I made a milk (cow) soap. I just remember that it stinks and that' all...

Here, there are methods given by David Fisher for making a milk soap : http://candleandsoap.about.com/od/beyondbasics/a/lyemilk.htm
he uses frozen (slushed) milk.

Why is it necessary to do this way ? Is it because too much heath (putting the lye directly into the milk) would damage the fats in the milk by overeating them ?

Honestly I wonder if I should not try making ricotta instead... It looks so long to do as M. Fisher does, and more : I never put my head over a mix of liquid and lye, it makes fumes. Even in winter, I mix my water/lye solution outside.

Has one of you made milk soap in this way ? Is it THE strict method (working with thawed milk) ?

Would it be the same with one using coconut milk ?[/i]
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find the milk caramelizes if I add it directly to the lye. I use minimum water required to dissolve the lye and add the milk when the oils and lye are just emulsified. I also don't gel, to keep it a light color.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you, Buddy. If the milk caramelizes, that means that the fats are "cooked", I think...

If I well understand,
you put an amount of water (let's say 1/3 of the recipe), add it to the lye,

then, put the water-lye solution into the oils

and THEN add the 2/3 liquids (milk). Is it what you mean ?

That is an idea. I will obviously make a trying batch. The seller told me that I was lucky, as they don't often bring the milk to sell at the market. They had wonderful other products... and wonderful soaps smelling fresh herbs. Sigh...................... I don't want to spoil my milk !
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the milk caramelizes, that means that the natural sugars have been cooked.

Let's say you need 8 to 14 ozs. (hypothetically) of liquid for your lye. You would dissolve the lye in the minimum amount of water; in this case 8 ozs. You mix this lye water with your soapmaking oils at the correct temp; preferably cool. As soon as they are combined to make a very light emulsion, you would add the rest of the liquid as milk. In this case 6 ozs. of milk.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you, Soapbuddy. I think that the same would apply for coconut milk ? This one is more rich than sheep's milk.

Honestly, I saw ricotta recipes and I wonder which one I will make : soap or cheese... Will see tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lily wrote:
Thank you, Soapbuddy. I think that the same would apply for coconut milk ? This one is more rich than sheep's milk.

Honestly, I saw ricotta recipes and I wonder which one I will make : soap or cheese... Will see tomorrow.

Coconut milk has natural sugars too, just not as much as milk.
I hope that you can post pics when you are done. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coconut milk isn't as fussy, in my opinion. I chill the coconut milk with my water, I put lye slowly into the milk and stir, then I let it cool before I soap with it. It works and it doesn't heat as much and discolor as bad as goat's milk. I don't insulate the soap and it's cool downstairs where I soap.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I cannot make pics for now. My camera is broken. I have one here that I borrowed but not the thread to charge the pics in the comp. I will see what I can do. I never sent pics here... True that my soaps are pretty flat looking beside many I have seen here !

Something too bad : I had not seen that this (sheep) milk I bought is only 1% fat. There is not too much interest to make a milk soap if there are almost no fats. And I see that I had bought light coconut milk too. I feel ashamed. It's not my day.

Ok I send pics as soon as I can.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lily wrote:
Well, I cannot make pics for now. My camera is broken. I have one here that I borrowed but not the thread to charge the pics in the comp. I will see what I can do. I never sent pics here... True that my soaps are pretty flat looking beside many I have seen here !

Something too bad : I had not seen that this (sheep) milk I bought is only 1% fat. There is not too much interest to make a milk soap if there are almost no fats. And I see that I had bought light coconut milk too. I feel ashamed. It's not my day.

Ok I send pics as soon as I can.


Well post pics when you can. We love soap por n.
If it's 1% milk, you can always use it for label appeal and use some extra shea or mango butter to make a nice soap.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought some OMH soap from a crafter and it smells a little funky for my tastes... this is normal then, from the milk? Good to know!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, Jackie, but what does OMH mean ?

I too saw very interesting soaps made with sheep's milk. One had a bit a funny "animal" scent while the other had not at all.

I don't understand because goat's milk soap does not have any animal scent.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lily wrote:
Sorry, Jackie, but what does OMH mean ?

I too saw very interesting soaps made with sheep's milk. One had a bit a funny "animal" scent while the other had not at all.

I don't understand because goat's milk soap does not have any animal scent.


Sorry lily!! I get hung up over acronyms all the time, I should be more considerate!

Oatmeal, Milk, and Honey.

Unless I'm messing up yet another acronym myself! If I am... well, that's what I meant anyway!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jackisayswhat wrote:
I bought some OMH soap from a crafter and it smells a little funky for my tastes... this is normal then, from the milk? Good to know!


It is not normal for this soap to smell "funky" after it's been cured.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SavonSoap wrote:
jackisayswhat wrote:
I bought some OMH soap from a crafter and it smells a little funky for my tastes... this is normal then, from the milk? Good to know!


It is not normal for this soap to smell "funky" after it's been cured.


It's very a very mild odor in an unscented soap... I think I may just be a little sensitive to that as I have NEVER liked milk! Thank goodness for soymilk or I'd be screwed! Somehow, miraculously, my serum calcium is in the normal range... I was shocked! LOL... I guess I must eat enough cheese!!

Funky may have been a bit of a strong adjective... it doesn't smell like it's gone BAD... there's just a very mild, slightly unpleasant aroma to my nose.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sheep is the right word for this milk, because we know milk only comes from the female. In this case you are referring to the animal, not the *.
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