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lily
Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Posts: 414 Location: Prov. of Québec, Canada
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:47 pm Post subject: sheep's milk soap |
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Hello girls ! Today, I went to the market and found some Sheep's milk (I hope that "sheep" is the good word for the female animal ?) anyway: you know what I mean.
A pretty long time ago, I made a milk (cow) soap. I just remember that it stinks and that' all...
Here, there are methods given by David Fisher for making a milk soap : http://candleandsoap.about.com/od/beyondbasics/a/lyemilk.htm
he uses frozen (slushed) milk.
Why is it necessary to do this way ? Is it because too much heath (putting the lye directly into the milk) would damage the fats in the milk by overeating them ?
Honestly I wonder if I should not try making ricotta instead... It looks so long to do as M. Fisher does, and more : I never put my head over a mix of liquid and lye, it makes fumes. Even in winter, I mix my water/lye solution outside.
Has one of you made milk soap in this way ? Is it THE strict method (working with thawed milk) ?
Would it be the same with one using coconut milk ?[/i] _________________ lily
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soapbuddy

Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 4175 Location: Palm Springs, CA
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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I find the milk caramelizes if I add it directly to the lye. I use minimum water required to dissolve the lye and add the milk when the oils and lye are just emulsified. I also don't gel, to keep it a light color. _________________ Irena
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lily
Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Posts: 414 Location: Prov. of Québec, Canada
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you, Buddy. If the milk caramelizes, that means that the fats are "cooked", I think...
If I well understand,
you put an amount of water (let's say 1/3 of the recipe), add it to the lye,
then, put the water-lye solution into the oils
and THEN add the 2/3 liquids (milk). Is it what you mean ?
That is an idea. I will obviously make a trying batch. The seller told me that I was lucky, as they don't often bring the milk to sell at the market. They had wonderful other products... and wonderful soaps smelling fresh herbs. Sigh...................... I don't want to spoil my milk ! _________________ lily |
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soapbuddy

Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 4175 Location: Palm Springs, CA
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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If the milk caramelizes, that means that the natural sugars have been cooked.
Let's say you need 8 to 14 ozs. (hypothetically) of liquid for your lye. You would dissolve the lye in the minimum amount of water; in this case 8 ozs. You mix this lye water with your soapmaking oils at the correct temp; preferably cool. As soon as they are combined to make a very light emulsion, you would add the rest of the liquid as milk. In this case 6 ozs. of milk. _________________ Irena
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lily
Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Posts: 414 Location: Prov. of Québec, Canada
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you, Soapbuddy. I think that the same would apply for coconut milk ? This one is more rich than sheep's milk.
Honestly, I saw ricotta recipes and I wonder which one I will make : soap or cheese... Will see tomorrow. _________________ lily |
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soapbuddy

Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 4175 Location: Palm Springs, CA
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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| lily wrote: | Thank you, Soapbuddy. I think that the same would apply for coconut milk ? This one is more rich than sheep's milk.
Honestly, I saw ricotta recipes and I wonder which one I will make : soap or cheese... Will see tomorrow. |
Coconut milk has natural sugars too, just not as much as milk.
I hope that you can post pics when you are done.  _________________ Irena
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debwya
Joined: 20 Apr 2009 Posts: 147 Location: Alberta
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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Coconut milk isn't as fussy, in my opinion. I chill the coconut milk with my water, I put lye slowly into the milk and stir, then I let it cool before I soap with it. It works and it doesn't heat as much and discolor as bad as goat's milk. I don't insulate the soap and it's cool downstairs where I soap. _________________ Debra |
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lily
Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Posts: 414 Location: Prov. of Québec, Canada
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:10 am Post subject: |
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Well, I cannot make pics for now. My camera is broken. I have one here that I borrowed but not the thread to charge the pics in the comp. I will see what I can do. I never sent pics here... True that my soaps are pretty flat looking beside many I have seen here !
Something too bad : I had not seen that this (sheep) milk I bought is only 1% fat. There is not too much interest to make a milk soap if there are almost no fats. And I see that I had bought light coconut milk too. I feel ashamed. It's not my day.
Ok I send pics as soon as I can. _________________ lily |
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soapbuddy

Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 4175 Location: Palm Springs, CA
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:58 am Post subject: |
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| lily wrote: | Well, I cannot make pics for now. My camera is broken. I have one here that I borrowed but not the thread to charge the pics in the comp. I will see what I can do. I never sent pics here... True that my soaps are pretty flat looking beside many I have seen here !
Something too bad : I had not seen that this (sheep) milk I bought is only 1% fat. There is not too much interest to make a milk soap if there are almost no fats. And I see that I had bought light coconut milk too. I feel ashamed. It's not my day.
Ok I send pics as soon as I can. |
Well post pics when you can. We love soap por n.
If it's 1% milk, you can always use it for label appeal and use some extra shea or mango butter to make a nice soap. _________________ Irena
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jackisayswhat
Joined: 30 Apr 2009 Posts: 331 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:15 am Post subject: |
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I bought some OMH soap from a crafter and it smells a little funky for my tastes... this is normal then, from the milk? Good to know! _________________ "There never was a good war or a bad peace." -Benjamin Franklin |
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lily
Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Posts: 414 Location: Prov. of Québec, Canada
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry, Jackie, but what does OMH mean ?
I too saw very interesting soaps made with sheep's milk. One had a bit a funny "animal" scent while the other had not at all.
I don't understand because goat's milk soap does not have any animal scent. _________________ lily |
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jackisayswhat
Joined: 30 Apr 2009 Posts: 331 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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| lily wrote: | Sorry, Jackie, but what does OMH mean ?
I too saw very interesting soaps made with sheep's milk. One had a bit a funny "animal" scent while the other had not at all.
I don't understand because goat's milk soap does not have any animal scent. |
Sorry lily!! I get hung up over acronyms all the time, I should be more considerate!
Oatmeal, Milk, and Honey.
Unless I'm messing up yet another acronym myself! If I am... well, that's what I meant anyway! _________________ "There never was a good war or a bad peace." -Benjamin Franklin |
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SavonSoap

Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 1795 Location: MacGregor, Manitoba
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:15 am Post subject: |
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| jackisayswhat wrote: | | I bought some OMH soap from a crafter and it smells a little funky for my tastes... this is normal then, from the milk? Good to know! |
It is not normal for this soap to smell "funky" after it's been cured. _________________ Too blessed to be stressed! |
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jackisayswhat
Joined: 30 Apr 2009 Posts: 331 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:17 am Post subject: |
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| SavonSoap wrote: | | jackisayswhat wrote: | | I bought some OMH soap from a crafter and it smells a little funky for my tastes... this is normal then, from the milk? Good to know! |
It is not normal for this soap to smell "funky" after it's been cured. |
It's very a very mild odor in an unscented soap... I think I may just be a little sensitive to that as I have NEVER liked milk! Thank goodness for soymilk or I'd be screwed! Somehow, miraculously, my serum calcium is in the normal range... I was shocked! LOL... I guess I must eat enough cheese!!
Funky may have been a bit of a strong adjective... it doesn't smell like it's gone BAD... there's just a very mild, slightly unpleasant aroma to my nose. _________________ "There never was a good war or a bad peace." -Benjamin Franklin |
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Michelle Forum Moderator

Joined: 06 Jan 2007 Posts: 1049 Location: Queensland, Australia
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:21 am Post subject: |
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Sheep is the right word for this milk, because we know milk only comes from the female. In this case you are referring to the animal, not the *. _________________ www.zalibeauty.com
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